The Professional Engineer - Becoming a PE-PC is optional

                                                 

                            بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيْم

Salam Syawal,

My mistakes in this posting is of my own. 

Allah SWT is Perfection.

I only have the best of intentions. The opinion put forth here is personal. 

All that are beneficial comes only from Allah SWT. 

SubhanAllah Walhamdulillah. 

in my humble opinion, a Professional Engineer in Mechanical Engineering is an engineer who could be a professional engineer in the many branches of Mechanical Engineering - from building services to power generation plant. 

so to cut to the chase, Mechanical Engineers in the building services consultancy who are involved in the plans submission to the authorities and shall bear the design and supervision responsibility under the related CCC G Forms. 

the Mechanical Engineer then has to be a PE-PC.  

only that sort of Mechanical Engineer has to sit for the Professional Competency Examination. 

Mechanical Engineers from other sectors of the industry may not sit for the PCE. 

simply because based on your training and experience report and an interview, we would know that you may not have the similar experience expected of a mechanical engineer in the building services sector of the Engineering Consultancy Practice (ECP). 

However, SPAN has a list of registered professional engineers, which to me a professional engineer may also register as a qualified person under the relevant Act or by-law. Unless they have replaced "PE" with "PE-PC" also. 

what i'm getting at is to see where can the Hexagon be used.

there are some who couldn't be bothered to order that chop from the nearby stationery store, well maybe because it was not popular as the round chop. 

[i did mine by using the dimensions of my boss's round stamp, stamped on paper and from there worked out a hexagon with my remarkable Electrical AutoCAD supervisor. 

when i brought the print-out to the nearby stationery store, the proprietor said that he has never seen it before but Alhamdullilah, the stamp is in my office drawer which i officially use once a year.]

one might think that it limits the scope of the PE. that depends. i think that the PE can submit as per the requirements of Clause 8A of the REA 1967 amendment 2015. 

which implies highly specialized product, plant or equipment - to any person or authority - which you can be an employee (being a PE is first and foremost for submission of plans or drawings).

as for building services, the Mechanical Engineer has to be a PE-PC. 

and nowadays, to become one, one has to sit for the PCE. That's the law - under RoER 1990 amendment 2015. 

and from a few of my earlier posts on Facebook and in this blogpage, i hope those who have read would see my intent of having a more 'professional' (just my opinion) way of having the upgrade from a PE to a PE-PC. 

i'm inspired by the way the Chartered Engineers of UK conducts their professional interview, which is similar to the way IEM conducts theirs. 

so, why couldn't that method be used for candidates who wish to become a submitting person? just make it slightly tougher than the interviews the Grad. Eng goes through to become a P.Eng.  

where ethics play an very important role. more important than the technical aspect. therefore the code of conduct is to be understood and practiced. the candidate can be given a few scenarios - based on the report that he presented to the panelists - where ethical practice shall be the main theme.

the interviewing panel may ask the PE-PC candidate matters related to his technical experience - especially in design and supervision, including his experience in handling site-related matters within his capacity as a design engineer from the head office, apart from the code of conduct. 

the technical part can be based on the candidate's experience as well as what is expected for him/her to know - this is where the 'due skill' concept comes into play - especially with regards to public safety. 

for example -

imagine a PE who has been designing and supervising a non-high rise building for years may have a problem in appreciating the design and supervision of a high-rise building. but as he/she is expected to know also the design and the related supervision for fire protection system, cold & hot water plumbing services and sanitary plumbing services - where the design codes and the authority having jurisdiction's requirements are available. 

and to test that PE, within an examination environment doesn't sit right with me. 

SubhanAllah. Walhamdulillah.

Wassalam,

FbI